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Thu, July 21, 2022, the day before Comic-Con 2022, was big. There were these announcements:
Thu, July 21, 2022, the day before [Comic-Con 2022|https://www.comic-con.org/cci], was big. There were these announcements:
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We're going to take a look at the first two and also how they affect our [Season 2 Predictions]. Also, I might try to make all of this into a video.
We're going to take a look at the first two and also how they affect my (Gary) [Season 2 Predictions]. Note that my predictions are still a work in progress.
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Also, I might try to make all of this into a video.
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WARNING: Spoilers From The Books Through [The Shadow Rising]
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* [Wheel of Time Season 2 BTS Video Breakdown!!!|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFc-s9qWAPw] by Nae'blis (Jul 27, 2022)
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\\Lots of people seem to think this is [Ayoola Smart|https://www.imdb.com/name/nm8707040] playing [Aviendha]. There's a lot of speculation that the other two are also [Maidens|Maidens of the Spear] and possibly even [Bain] and [Chiad].
I've already stated in my [predictions|Season 2 Predictions] that I thought [Aviendha] would be in [Season 2]. However, I was more leaning towards her meeting [Nynaeve] and [Egwene] (like in [TDR,Ch38]) on their way to [Tar Valon] rather that meeting [Perrin] (like [Gaul] did in [TDR,Ch34]). But a recent reminder of a [rehearsal script leak|https://www.wotseries.com/2022/06/15/scoop-audition-tape-filming-information-hint-at-aviendhas-story/] has me rethinking that it might be the latter.
Any way she could do both meets? I could see how [Perrin] frees her and she eventually goes on her way and later meets [Nynaeve] and [Egwene]. But maybe not if she owes him a debt and if the rescue was filmed in Dakhla, which a [peninsula city on the coast of Moroccan-occupied Western Sahara|https://www.wotseries.com/2022/02/25/new-details-on-season-twos-morocco-filming/] and therefore maybe [Falme]. I think Our Heroes won't be in [Falme] until [Episode 207] at the earliest. Could she have met [Perrin] before they went through a [Waygate|Ways] to [Falme] and followed them?
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Um, they're in [Falme]? Not much about plots here. We did see [Moiraine] show up in [Falme] in the books after the battle. Maybe she and [Lan] get there earlier this time? But if they did, how would that affect the battle? I'm predicting that [Moiraine] is going to stay in [Tifans Well] until her shield is broken and [Tifans Well] is inland.
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PS I love trebuchets. Much better than catapults.
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I haven't explicitly put it in my [predictions|Season 2 Predictions] yet, but I'm assuming that since we're having the battle at [Falme] that the [Whitecloaks] will be there. So seeing them in a shot is not surprising.
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I'm assuming that the [Seanchan|Seanchan (People)] brought camels with them. After all, they also have [s'redits|Elephants].
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I've studied Elizabethan military and Elizabethan life, and I'm just really hoping that's not a [breaking wheel|Wikipedia:Breaking_wheel] because those things were nasty.
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That's a [Whitecloak] dressed for battle. Apparently at [Falme]. Too young looking to be [Geofram Bornhald], so I'm thinking maybe his son [Dain Bornhald].
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This image has nine people in it. I [predicted|Season 2 Predictions] that the following are the Hunters of the [Horn|Horn of Valere], and I'm going to add Elyas and [Hopper]. Who are the others? Red shirt [Shienarans|Shienar]? I don't see [Loial] or [Mat] in this shot.
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This image has nine people in it. I predicted that the following are the Hunters of the [Horn|Horn of Valere], and I'm going to add Elyas and [Hopper].
# [Perrin]
# [Loial] - not shown
# [Uno]
# [Ingtar]
# [Masema]
# [Mat] - not shown
# Elyas (and [Hopper]) - added
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# Perrin
# Loial
# Uno
# Ingtar
# Masema
# Mat
# Elyas (and [Hopper])
Nae'blis [has a theory|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFc-s9qWAPw] that this might be at [Barthanes] manor. I kind of like that theory. There's also a lot of people noticing that [Perrin] is carrying a sword instead of an axe.
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Obviously a [Waygate] in a jungle or oasis. But where's that jungle? I don't know.
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[Wot Up! says|https://youtu.be/gyhLC3XpMVw?t=785] that this was filmed with a bunch of [Whitecloaks] on the same set.
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In the second shot, who is that standing in the middle of the circle of men? I think that might be [Turak|Turak Aladon]. I'm betting this is [Falme] and the [Seanchan|Seanchan (People)] have taken it over.
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That one poor guy was just enjoying his beer. It makes me think this is not a battle scene. I've heard some people say that [Aludra] may show up, so maybe it's an accidental fireworks explosion?
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[The Dusty Wheel|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4muPyw9OZ8&t=14s] cleaned up the shot a bit and it really looks like [Lan] and [Moiraine] behind him. People have noticed that this is not [Rand]'s usual sweater. Maybe at this point [Moiraine] has already taken his casual wear and switched it out with better clothes?
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This isn't that much different than the first shot of the two of them.
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Several people are saying that this is the Foregate part of [Cairhien|Cairhien (City)]. Looks about right.
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See the "Who Is This" subsection in the "Q & A with Rafe" section below.
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See the "Who Is This" subsection in the "Q & A with Rafe" section.
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Well, we all knew that [Fain] would be in [season 2]. Here he is walking through some unknown castle or manor.
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A [Fade]?
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! Screenshot 18 - Dunno
! Screenshot 18 - Falme?
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[The Dusty Wheel|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4muPyw9OZ8&t=14s] seems to think that the four people atop the structure could be two [suldam] and two [damane] and this is blocking for a scene.
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[The Dusty Wheel|https://www.youtube.com/c/TheDustyWheel] says that [Loial] is the one in the back left. There was some speculation that the center person was [Gawyn], but that was dismissed, and the next guess is that it might be a Hero of the [Horn|Horn of Valere] due to the style of his clothing. They guess that the person behind him could be [Geofram Bornhald].
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[The Dusty Wheel|https://www.youtube.com/c/TheDustyWheel] says that [Loial] is the one in the back left. There was some speculation that the center person was [Gawyn], but that was dismissed, and the next guess is that it might be a Hero of the Horn due to the style of his clothing.
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I have [predicted|Season 2 Predictions] that [Nynaeve] and [Egwene] will return to the [White Tower] for their training and I don't think this is a huge guess. Seems pretty straightforward. Here we see [Egwene] as a Novice.
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I think this is just [Hammar], [Galad] and [Gawyn] practicing at the [Tower|White Tower]. I'm betting that [Mat] might be just off-screen.
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Since there's no one in armor around, I'm guessing this is also related to fireworks like the previous scene was.
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I've read from several people that they think this is [Aviendha] versus a [Whitecloak]. [Nae'blis|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vFc-s9qWAPw] and [Unraveling the Pattern|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_c3QyrBbHL8&t=108s] noted that there's a cage in the background which might imply this is where she's in the cage instead of [Gaul] and [Perrin] frees her. I will say this matches the [leaked audition tape|https://www.wotseries.com/2022/06/15/scoop-audition-tape-filming-information-hint-at-aviendhas-story/] of [Aviendha] and [Perrin].
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In the books, [Aviendha] meets [Egwene], [Elayne] and [Nynaeve] in [TDR,Ch38]. I [predicted|Season 2 Predictions] that would happen in [season 2], but I had forgotten the leaked audition tape. [Perrin] finds [Gaul] in [TDR,Ch33]. I think there's a chance that [Aviendha] could take [Gaul]'s place in the cage and still have both encounters happen. Edit: Maybe not. See discussion in Screenshot 1.
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[Fade] nailed to a door is confirmed! ([TGH,Ch11]) People are now calling this the "Doordraal".
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I see five [Shienarans|Shienar], [Perrin] and one other person who might be [Elyas Machera]. I'm betting that the Shienarans include [Masema|Masema Dagar], [Ingtar] and [Uno|Uno Nomesta].The other two might be red shirts? Again, I don't see anyone here who looks like [Mat] or [Loial].
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[{Image src='Comic-Con 2022/Screenshot 25.png' width='400'}]
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This doesn't tell us much. It's [Rand], looking pensive, with some blood on him. [The Dusty Wheel - Season 2 Theories|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n4muPyw9OZ8] noted that he's wearing different clothes.
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I'm assuming this is just [Lan] practicing his sword forms. I think that maybe [Rand] is just off-screen and this is part of teaching [Rand] how to use his sword.
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[Wot Up!|https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gyhLC3XpMVw] thinks that [Moiraine] and [Lan] will meet up with [Verin] and not the Namelle sisters and that [Tomas] is just offscreen here. I respectfully disagree. I'm sticking with the Namelle sisters at [Tifans Well] and [Lan] going off to find [Rand].
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I don't have a guess as to who this is.
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I don't think that this tell us much, plot-wise, except as confirmation that [Fain|Padan Fain] is in [Season 2]. But we have that already with the "Doordraal" scene (Screenshot 24).
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This appears to be a war map of [Falme].
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Obviously part of a nighttime battle.
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Obviously part of a nighttime battle. The only thing remarkable is the large figure dragging two others around. Some are saying that this might be a [Gardener|Ogier].
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[Geeky Eri says|https://twitter.com/geekyeri/status/1550669333872799744] this is [Karima McAdams|https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1677528/].
The next question is which character is this? [Suroth]? [Semirhage]? [Lanfear]?
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Looks like a [Fade] and someone falling off of a horse. Same [Fade] as the previous shot? I have no guesses who is falling off the horse. Some are saying that this might be [Moiraine] falling off of [Aldieb].
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That's just too blurry to work with.
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Excellent! And since that is [TGH,Prologue], I'm going to predict that it's the cold open for [Episode 201]. The prologue for the 2nd book and the opening for the 2nd season.
Excellent! And since that is [TGH,Prologue], I'm going to predict that it's the cold open for [Episode 201]. The prologue for the [2nd book|The Great Hunt] and the opening for the [2nd season|Season 2].
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[{Image src='Comic-Con 2022/Time Gap.png' link='https://twitter.com/MaggieMelchior/status/1550293506769317888' width='400' style='border: 1px solid black;' alt='Q: Is the Darkfriend Social gonna be in the show? A: Yep'}]
[{Image src='Comic-Con 2022/Time Gap.png' link='https://twitter.com/MaggieMelchior/status/1550293506769317888' width='400' style='border: 1px solid black;' alt='Q: ...will the next seasons keep them on parallel timelines for a convergence at Falme...? A: ...but we try to do as much as we can to avoid one hour cross continent dragon flights'}]
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I still think they're going to need a "One Month Later..." one time in the early part of [season 2]. [Rand] needs to be trained with the sword and [Egwene] needs time to learn in the [White Tower] plus some time with the [Seanchan|Seanchan (People)] before she's rescued.
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There's already interviews where Rafe goes into more details, and I've included them in with my [predictions|Season 2 Predictions].
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! Loial and Stedding
[{Image src='Comic-Con 2022/stedding.png' link='https://twitter.com/burns_science/status/1550293104032350209' width='400' style='border: 1px solid black;' alt='Q: Why did you guys decide not to make the dagger instant death like the books? How did Loial survive being stabbed by *the* dagger? A: That’s a story best told in a stedding'}]
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This makes me think we may see a [stedding].
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