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!LINGUISTIC COMMENTARY
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<P>
In an attempt to provide a definition for the majority of cases, certain linguistic assumptions were made that seem to be characteristic of the majority, although not all, of the Old Tongue statements in the series. These are assumptions about word order. The first is the characteristic word order of the sentence: predicate-verb-subject. Many of the sentences follow this with the notable exception of <A HREF = "#phTiaMi">"Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin."</A> In my opinion. For more information on this exception, see the corresponding entry. It has been suggested that I also assume that the adjective would precede the noun, but there are numerous examples that seem to contradict this, so I have elected not to do this. By looking at the cross-referenced phrase, one can draw one's own conclusions. Many assumptions have also been made based on the idea that <A HREF = "#an">"an"</A>, <A HREF = "#in">"in"</A> and <A HREF = "#en">"en"</A> all seem to indicate pluralization. One of the major problems with attempting to compile this list is that I do not believe that Mr. Jordan made an effort to provide a basis for the Old Tongue until after <I>The Eye of the World</I>. This is evidenced by the failure of phrases like <A HREF="#phTiaMi">"Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin"</A> to follow established word order. Jordan has said that this is not true, however.
</P>
In an attempt to provide a definition for the majority of cases, certain linguistic assumptions were made that seem to be characteristic of the majority, although not all, of the Old Tongue statements in the series. These are assumptions about word order. The first is the characteristic word order of the sentence: predicate-verb-subject. Many of the sentences follow this with the notable exception of "Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin." In my opinion. For more information on this exception, see the corresponding entry. It has been suggested that I also assume that the adjective would precede the noun, but there are numerous examples that seem to contradict this, so I have elected not to do this. By looking at the cross-referenced phrase, one can draw one's own conclusions. Many assumptions have also been made based on the idea that "an", "in" and "en" all seem to indicate pluralization. One of the major problems with attempting to compile this list is that I do not believe that Mr. Jordan made an effort to provide a basis for the Old Tongue until after ''The Eye of the World''. This is evidenced by the failure of phrases like "Tia mi aven Moridin isainde vadin" to follow established word order. Jordan has said that this is not true, however.
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<H3>EXCLUSIONS</H3>
! EXCLUSIONS
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<PRE>
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;aan'allein:one man, see "aan" and "allein"
;aethan:shelds /see phrase <A HREF = "#phAethan">"aethan dor"</A>/
;aan'allein:one man. See "aan" and "allein"
;aethan:shelds. See phrase "aethan dor"
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;ailen:??? /see <A HREF = "ta'maral'ailen">"ta'maral'ailen"</A>/
;ain:is /see <A HREF = "#note1">note 1</A>/
<A NAME = "al">al</A> =
the /or/ of the
<A NAME = "al'cair'rahienallen">al'cair'rahienallen</A> =
the golden dawn hill /see <A HREF = "#cair">"cair"</A>, <A HREF = "#rahien">"rahien"</A> and <A HREF = "#allen">"allen"</A>/
<A NAME = "alcair">alcair</A> =
the golden /see <A HREF = "#cair">"cair"</A>
<A NAME = "algai'd'siswai">algai'd'siswai</A> ?=
the fighters of spear /see <A HREF = "#gai">"gai"</A> and <A HREF = "#siswai">"siswai"</A>/
<A NAME = "alantin">alantin</A> =
brother
<A NAME = "aldazar">aldazar</A> =
the eagle /see <A HREF = "#dazar">"dazar"</A>/
<A NAME = "aldieb">aldieb</A> =
westwind
<A NAME = "algode">algode</A> =
cotton
<A NAME = "allein">allein</A> =
man
<A NAME = "allen">allen</A> ?=
hill
<A NAME = "allende">allende</A> =
??? /see phrase <A HREF = "#phMuad">"Muad'drin..."</A>/
<A NAME = "aman">aman</A> ?=
dragon
<A NAME = "an">an</A> =
/pluralization/ /see <A HREF = "#note2">note 2</A>/
<A NAME = "angreal">angreal</A> =
/tool of the power/
<A NAME = "aridhol">aridhol</A> =
??? /a city of the second covenant/
<A NAME = "asa">asa</A> =
you
<A NAME = "asmodean">asmodean</A> =
??? /contraction of real name?/
<A NAME = "aso">aso</A> =
it
<A NAME = "atha">atha</A> ?=
person
<A NAME = "atha'an">atha'an</A> ?=
peoples /see <A HREF = "#atha">"atha"</A> and <A HREF = "#an">"an"</A>/
<A NAME = "aven">aven</A> ?=
call
<A NAME = "avende">avende</A> =
tree
;ailen:???. See "ta'maral'ailen"
;ain:is. See note 1
;al:the ''or'' of the
;al'cair'rahienallen:the golden dawn hill. See "cair", "rahien" and "allen"
;alcair:the golden. See "cair"
;algai'd'siswai:the fighters of spear. See "gai" and "siswai"
;alantin:brother
;aldazar:the eagle. See "dazar"
;aldieb:westwind
;algode:cotton
;allein:man
;allen:hill
;allende:??? . See phrase "Muad'drin..."
;aman:dragon
;an:/pluralization/ . See note 2
;angreal:tool of the power
;aridhol:a city of the second covenant
;asa:you
;asmodean: /contraction of real name?/
;aso:it
;atha:person
;atha'an:peoples. See "atha" and "an"
;aven:call
;avende:tree
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<H3>Phrases:</H3>
! Phrases
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<A NAME = "phCaraiCal">Carai an caldazar</A> = For the honor of the red eagle
<DL><DD>
"Carai" means "honor", "an" is a preposition in this case, probably
"of", "cal" means "red" and "dazar" means "eagle".
</DL>
;Carai an caldazar:For the honor of the red eagle. "Carai" means "honor", "an" is a preposition in this case, probably "of", "cal" means "red" and "dazar" means "eagle".
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<A NAME = "phMachin">machin shin</A> = the black wind
<DL><DD>
The wind in the ways. No idea on word order.
</DL>
;machin shin:the black wind. The wind in the ways. No idea on word order.
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<A NAME = "phMafal">mafal dadaranell</A> = old name for Fal Dara
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No idea on any word.
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;mafal dadaranell:old name for Fal Dara. No idea on any word.
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<A NAME = "ph"MiaAyende>Mia ayende, Aes Sedai</A> = release me, Aes Sedai
<DL><DD>
Probably literally "my release/freedom, Aes Sedai". <A HREF = "#mia">"Mia"</A> means
"my" and <A HREF = "#ayende">"ayende"</A> means "release/freedom".
</DL>
;Mia ayende, Aes Sedai:release me, Aes Sedai. Probably literally "my release/freedom, Aes Sedai". "Mia" means "my" and "ayende" means "release/freedom".
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<A NAME = "phMiaDovienya">Mia dovienya nesodhin soende</A> = ???
<DL><DD>
Probably literally "My luck ??? ???". If the normal word order
holds, <A HREF = "#nesodhin">"nesodhin"</A> is the verb and <A HREF = "#soende">"soende"</A> is the subject. Mat
says that this sounded like a "fervent wish".
</DL>
;Mia dovienya nesodhin soende:???. Probably literally "My luck ??? ???". If the normal word order holds, "nesodhin" is the verb and "soende" is the subject. Mat says that this sounded like a "fervent wish".
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<A NAME = "phMordero">Mordero daghain pas duente cuebiyar</A> = Death fear none holds my heart
<DL><DD>
Translation is word for word.
</DL>
;Mordero daghain pas duente cuebiyar:Death fear none holds my heart. Translation is word for word.
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<A NAME = "phMuad'drin">Muad'drin tia dar allende caba'drin rhadiem</A> = Footmen prepare to pass cavalry.
<DL><DD>
Probably literally "Foot soldiers to ??? ??? horse soldiers ???"
<A HREF = "#muad">"Muad"</A> means "foot", <A HREF = "#drin">"drin"</A> means "soldier",
<A HREF = "#tia">"tia"</A> means "to" and <A HREF = "#caba">"caba"</A>. means "horse"
</DL>
;Muad'drin tia dar allende caba'drin rhadiem:Footmen prepare to pass cavalry. Probably literally "Foot soldiers to ??? ??? horse soldiers ???". "Muad" means "foot", "drin" means "soldier", "tia" means "to" and "caba" means "horse"
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